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More and more mobile devices become narrow bezel or frameless design to get higher competitive capability. <br />
As the Ultrabook or mobile phone in recent years, becomes slimmer and lighter is the most important trend.<br />
Thought about the design on Gaming Notebooks, since the design needs more high performance hardware and cooling solution, <br />
if the technology, ID and material is keep improving, maybe the frame and size could become thinner and lighter year by year.<br />
Evantually there are 3 of 15.6” thin bezel and ultra slim gaming notebooks came out in the market, this time it’s MSI GS65, the company did work hard on the gaming market.<br /><img src="http://www.extreme01.com/wwm/2018/MGS65/MGS6501.jpg" alt="MGS6501.jpg" /></p>
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The full name is GS65 Stealth Thin 8RF, it comes with 3 versions by different hardware combinations.<br />
Evolved from last version of slim notebook GS63, the GS65 designed with narrow bezel and brand new ID design. <br />
By the way, the previous generation GS63 with GTX1050 graphics was high C/P ratio, really worth of the price with great value!<br /><img src="http://www.extreme01.com/wwm/2018/MGS65/MGS6502.jpg" alt="MGS6502.jpg" /></p>
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GS65 with metallic A cover and matted touched design.<br />
Printed with golden MSI Dragon logo, the frame also uses shinning gold lines to make it looks higher quality and special.<br />
The dimension is 357.7x247.7x17.9mm, the weight is 1.88kg<br /><img src="http://www.extreme01.com/wwm/2018/MGS65/MGS6503V.jpg" alt="MGS6503V.jpg" /></p>
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B side attached the AUO 15.6” IPS level panel, with FHD resolution, 144Hz refresh rate and 7ms response time. <br />
The bezel only got 4.9mm slim, display ratio is 82%, camera on the top side is better place than some others at bottom side. <br />
WebCam is 720P 30fps, the mic on both side support stereo sound recording. <br />
The video image will have more noise if it’s darker environment, but the image quality and detail is better than GS63.<br /><img src="http://www.extreme01.com/wwm/2018/MGS65/MGS6504.jpg" alt="MGS6504.jpg" /></p>
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C side is keyboard side, besides of that it’s all matted metallic material, this is same design as A cover side. <br />
Keyboard kept the design with Steelseries slim Per-Key RGB keyboard, but no numeric keys. <br />
Around the slim type membrane keyboard notebooks, Alienware still better than GS65 of the feedback type feeling.<br /><img src="http://www.extreme01.com/wwm/2018/MGS65/MGS6505.jpg" alt="MGS6505.jpg" /></p>
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Power button on the top center position, use brushed treatment with golden edge frame line to make it higher quality. <br />
A small light on the right side, white light means it’s using UMA, orange light means it’s using GTX graphics.<br />
There were align with holes for airflow across the power button, that makes cool air into the fan to enhance the cooling system performance. <br />
The MSI logo on the bottom of panel is not obvious, it will be more shinning if comes with golden material.<br /><img src="http://www.extreme01.com/wwm/2018/MGS65/MGS6506.jpg" alt="MGS6506.jpg" /></p>
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The IO port on left side<br />
Kensington lock \ airflow exhaust \ RJ45 LAN port \ 2x Type-A USB3.1 port<br />
The 3.5mm golden jack for HiFi headset and Mic audio jack. <br />
The headset output design with ESS SABRE HiFi DAC.<br />
The hinge frame and airflow exhaust hole design with golden material inside, it makes the appearance looks higher level.<br /><img src="http://www.extreme01.com/wwm/2018/MGS65/MGS6507.jpg" alt="MGS6507.jpg" /></p>
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The right side IO design<br />
Start from left, Type-A USB3.1 \ Type-C Thunderbolt 3 with USB3.1 Gen 2 &amp; DP \ Mini DisplayPort \ HDMI 2.0\ AC input \ black-golden airflow exhaust<br /><img src="http://www.extreme01.com/wwm/2018/MGS65/MGS6508.jpg" alt="MGS6508.jpg" /></p>
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There were three 15.6” narrow bezel gaming notebooks in the market, GIGABYTE Aero 15X about 2kgs, 18.9mm height, <br />
RAZER BLADE 15 about 2.07~2.15kgs, 17.3mm height, the thinnest but also the heaviest one.<br />
MSI GS65 formal shows 1.88kg, tested model is 1862g is the lightest one, 17.9mm height in the middle. <br />
But most of the ultra-slim notebooks came with softer chassis, so the weight depends on the design, <br />
the stronger chassis might enlarge the size. But it’s not always like this rule.<br /><img src="http://www.extreme01.com/wwm/2018/MGS65/MGS6509.jpg" alt="MGS6509.jpg" /></p>
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The GS65 display could open to 180 degree to become flat; it helps on office meeting or group discussion to share the screen. <br />
If this panel could design with touch feature, that will be great.<br /><img src="http://www.extreme01.com/wwm/2018/MGS65/MGS6510.jpg" alt="MGS6510.jpg" /></p>
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D side has bigger difference, besides of larger surface of holes for airflow, the based robber came with bigger size and taller, <br />
that helps more for airflow to reduce the heat more effectively. Built-in 4-Cell battery with 82Whr, larger than GS63 as well.<br /><img src="http://www.extreme01.com/wwm/2018/MGS65/MGS6511.jpg" alt="MGS6511.jpg" /></p>
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Application is also a very important point that could enhance user experience for convenience, <br />
the Dragon Center is MSI own design APP, 2.0 version with brand new interface and enhanced a lot on the features. <br />
The UI showed it’s transparent image to see through your desktop. System Monitor showed current hardware working status.<br /><img src="http://www.extreme01.com/wwm/2018/MGS65/MGS6512.jpg" alt="MGS6512.jpg" /></p>
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System Tuner<br />
About DPI, hardware performance, fan speed or display color adjusts setup. <br />
Original with 4 preset, and 2 user define profile could save by user’s own preference. <br />
Shift mode got Turbo (GPU OC), Sport,ECO, Power Options of 4 types.<br />
Fan Speed got Auto, Basic, Advanced and Cooler Boost modes.<br />
No matter on performance wise or cooling mode, it all applied many modes that made GS65 more advanced usages with fun.<br /><img src="http://www.extreme01.com/wwm/2018/MGS65/MGS6513.jpg" alt="MGS6513.jpg" /></p>
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Gaming Mode<br />
You could see few hottest game titles supported here, like this GS65 already installed PUBG, <br />
users could through here to launch the game with MSI apps to change the keyboard backlit for the game hot keys.<br /><img src="http://www.extreme01.com/wwm/2018/MGS65/MGS6514.jpg" alt="MGS6514.jpg" /></p>
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MSI True Color, display colors adjust<br />
The Display Software was rare at NB products market, True Color comes with 6 modes for user to adjust with favors.<br />
MSI formal preset is sRGB mode, but users could still make more detail adjustment on each of the 6 modes.<br /><img src="http://www.extreme01.com/wwm/2018/MGS65/MGS6515.jpg" alt="MGS6515.jpg" /></p>
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The sound enhancement APP kept on Nahimic 3, become Microsoft Market Place APP, it’s more convenient to use, <br />
the UI changed a lot, rich features, with sound stages adjustment, mic enhancement, gaming stereo and other detail setup.<br /><img src="http://www.extreme01.com/wwm/2018/MGS65/MGS6516.jpg" alt="MGS6516.jpg" /></p>
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Here was my GS65 sound experience; this part might be more subjective point of view, compared with other high level gaming laptops.<br />
High Frequency – No over-sharped tone, rich of detail, presented high level quality.<br />
Mid Frequency – The sound detail was outstanding, strong vocal over average, but still could be better.<br />
Low Frequency – It presented good with clear drum sound, but it could be more powerful.<br />
Within this slim chassis design and narrow bezel frame, the speakers only got very limited space. <br />
With 2x 2watts speakers, turn on the maxima volume is really loud when play games in the room.<br />
The authentic sound detail is the most outstanding part, it’s really good no matter FHD video or play games.<br />
Headset output designed with ESS SABRE HiFi DAC, supported up to 192kHz/24bit as Hi-Res sampling rate. <br />
When use Hi-Res Audio headset to listen, the sound quality could compete the top level DELL Alienware products.
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Keyboard APP is Steelseries Engine 3<br />
Applied with general backlit management, rich of Macro-keys setup and multiple virtual keyboards for any different usage.<br />
Some of the lighting mode was preset inside that user could use, with Per-Key RGB function that could make the color modes become very fancy. <br />
The default with golden light made the dual wave from middle to aside, it really fits the color and style of GS65.<br /><img src="http://www.extreme01.com/wwm/2018/MGS65/MGS6517.jpg" alt="MGS6517.jpg" /></p>
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GS65 came with 2 GPUs first, the 8RF with GTX 1070 and 8RE with GTX 1060 versions.<br />
Also got different DDR4 and M.2 SSD capacities inside, that comes with different price range.<br />
Here came the GS65 8RF of top level hardware test, CPU used Intel Core i7 8750H, <br />
use Sport mode with Auto fan set to test, it’s the most balanced at performance and noise.
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CPUZ 1.85.0<br />
Single Thread =&gt; 470<br />
6C12T Multiple Thread =&gt; 3222<br />
Fritz Chess Benchmark =&gt; 41.67/19999<br /><img src="http://www.extreme01.com/wwm/2018/MGS65/MGS6518.jpg" alt="MGS6518.jpg" /></p>
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CINEBENCH R15<br />
CPU =&gt; 1124 cb<br />
CPU(Single Core) =&gt; 177 cb<br /><img src="http://www.extreme01.com/wwm/2018/MGS65/MGS6519.jpg" alt="MGS6519.jpg" /></p>
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FRYRENDER<br />
Running Time =&gt; 2m 22s<br />
x265 Benchmark 2.1.0 =&gt; 34.36 FPS<br /><img src="http://www.extreme01.com/wwm/2018/MGS65/MGS6520.jpg" alt="MGS6520.jpg" /></p>
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The Intel 8th Gen. Core i7 8750H core clock is 2.2~4.1GHz, the core architecture is 6C12T, <br />
compared to last Gen. same level of Core i7 7700HQ clock at 2.8~3.8GHz, core numbers only 4C8T.<br />
The Core i7 8750H single Core got about 8% performance enhancement, multi-Core with full speed will have 52%~65% performance enhancement depends on the usages. <br />
It’s really great help on high quality video editing, image or artwork designs, which really needs more CPU Cores to speed up. <br />
Besides of gaming enhancement, the 8th Gen architecture could also make the video clip and artwork more effectively.
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PCMARK10 =&gt; 5103<br /><img src="http://www.extreme01.com/wwm/2018/MGS65/MGS6521.jpg" alt="MGS6521.jpg" /></p>
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Storage designed with dual M.2 PCIe Gen.3 SSD slot, and 1 slot supported M.2 SATA interface. <br />
This GS65 8RF used 2 SAMSUNG MZVLB512HAJQ with RAID0.
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CrystalDiskMark <br />
Seq Read - 3501.5 MB/s，Write - 3256.0 MB/s<br />
AS SSD Benchmark - 3426<br />
Seq Read - 2908.68 MB/s，Write - 2960.23 MB/s<br />
4K - 64Thrd Read - 1061.38 MB/s，Write - 967.93 MB/s<br /><img src="http://www.extreme01.com/wwm/2018/MGS65/MGS6522.jpg" alt="MGS6522.jpg" /></p>
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This SSD should be PM981 512GB, above are the performance with RAID0.<br />
But the chipset support up to PCI-e Gen3 x4 bandwidth limitation, not like SATA3 RAID to double the performance. <br />
So the Max. performance is up to 3500+ MB/s around, plus the storage of 4k test will be lower because the notebook power saving technology is not able to manual disable.<br />
But if we consider in the notebook field, PM981 of RAID0 already the highest speed level of M.2 performance.
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Embedded with 2 kinds of GPU, one is Intel Core i7-8750H of built-in HD630 graphics.<br />
The 2nd one is nVIDIA Geforce GTX 1070 with 8GB GDDR5 VRAM of Max-Q versions.<br />
Below numbers all based on GTX 1070 Max-Q tests, same software with 2 types of preset and score<br />
Up: Shift Sport + Fan Speed Auto<br />
Down: Shift Turbo + Fan Speed Cooler Boost<br />
3DMARK 11 =&gt; 16105<br /><img src="http://www.extreme01.com/wwm/2018/MGS65/MGS6523.jpg" alt="MGS6523.jpg" /></p>
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3D MARK 11 =&gt; 17297, improved 7.4% after overclocked.<br /><img src="http://www.extreme01.com/wwm/2018/MGS65/MGS6524.jpg" alt="MGS6524.jpg" /></p>
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3DMARK Fire Strike =&gt; 12785<br /><img src="http://www.extreme01.com/wwm/2018/MGS65/MGS6525.jpg" alt="MGS6525.jpg" /></p>
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3D MARK Fire Strike =&gt; 14067, improved 10% after overclocked.<br /><img src="http://www.extreme01.com/wwm/2018/MGS65/MGS6526.jpg" alt="MGS6526.jpg" /></p>
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UNIGINE 2<br />
1080P MEDIUM =&gt; 10171<br />
Compared GTX1060 =&gt; 7902, GTX1070 =&gt; 13537<br /><img src="http://www.extreme01.com/wwm/2018/MGS65/MGS6527.jpg" alt="MGS6527.jpg" /></p>
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UNIGINE 2<br />
1080P MEDIUM =&gt; 11217, improved 10% after overclocked.<br /><img src="http://www.extreme01.com/wwm/2018/MGS65/MGS6528.jpg" alt="MGS6528.jpg" /></p>
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Assassin's Creed Syndicate<br />
1920 x 1080，GRAPHIC preset ULTRA HIGH<br />
In Beginning Theme - 49 FPS<br />
Previous test with GTX 1060 was 37 FPS，GTX 1070 was 59 FPS<br /><img src="http://www.extreme01.com/wwm/2018/MGS65/MGS6529.jpg" alt="MGS6529.jpg" /></p>
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The same game theme – 53FPS, add 8.2% after overclocked.<br /><img src="http://www.extreme01.com/wwm/2018/MGS65/MGS6530.jpg" alt="MGS6530.jpg" /></p>
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Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six<img src="https://www.xtremehardware.com/forum/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/00ae.png?v=e1a18355660" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--registered" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title="®" alt="®" /> Siege<br />
1920 x 1080，GRAPHICS preset Ultra<br />
In Game Theme - 146 FPS<br />
Previous test with GTX 1060 got 110 FPS，GTX 1070 got 167 FPS<br /><img src="http://www.extreme01.com/wwm/2018/MGS65/MGS6531.jpg" alt="MGS6531.jpg" /></p>
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The same game theme – 153FPS, add 4.8% after overclocked.<br /><img src="http://www.extreme01.com/wwm/2018/MGS65/MGS6532.jpg" alt="MGS6532.jpg" /></p>
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PLAYERUNKNOWN’S BATTLEGROUNDS<br />
1920 x 1080, set 3D effect at Highest, Lobby character setup theme – 78FPS<br /><img src="http://www.extreme01.com/wwm/2018/MGS65/MGS6533.jpg" alt="MGS6533.jpg" /></p>
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Lobby character setup theme – 85FPS, add 8.9% after overclocked.<br /><img src="http://www.extreme01.com/wwm/2018/MGS65/MGS6534.jpg" alt="MGS6534.jpg" /></p>
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The Turbo Mode that overclocked GTX 1070 Max-Q Core/VRAM over 200MHz, benchmarks could raise up 10% <br />
performance, in game FPS around 4.8~8.9% depend on different games.<br />
That made the GTX 1070 Max-Q overall 3D performance closer to GTX 1070, also more fun at overclock feature.<br />
Because the GS series designed with Ultra Slim type, it’s critical limitation to put GTX 1070 Max-P version on thermal, power consumption and size. <br />
The GS65 with much optimized interior design to achieve the highest performance inside.
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The room temperature is about 31°C, tested the GPU of GeForce GTX 1070 Max-Q with its cooling capability. <br />
Try FurMark test, idle at 49°C, full speed at 87°C<br /><img src="http://www.extreme01.com/wwm/2018/MGS65/MGS6535.jpg" alt="MGS6535.jpg" /></p>
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Shift set at Sport and Fan Speed Auto of GPU burn-in test status<br />
Keyboard surface around 30~41°C, top side and aside of airflow exhausts was about 42~48°C.<br />
The noise level present is outstanding, even the GPU temp. was not as low as GS63 at 83°C, but the noise level reduced a lot.<br />
Enable Cooler Boost Mode made higher noise level, it’s better to use headset to play, but the temperature from 87°C dropped to 78°C.
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CPU default clock from 2.2GHz~4.1GHz, battery mode set to High Performance.<br />
Tested with LinX 0.6.5 at full loading speed, around 82~90°C, maxima up to 93°C.<br />
Enable Cooler Boost for reference, 80~86°C, maxima up to 91°C.<br /><img src="http://www.extreme01.com/wwm/2018/MGS65/MGS6536.jpg" alt="MGS6536.jpg" /></p>
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Intel high level Core i7 from 1~7th Generation all came with 4C8T architecture,  the 8th Gen. become 6C12T, since it enhanced a lot on multi-task works, <br />
but more challenge to high level notebooks, the cooling surface was very limited, and slim notebooks even more challenge of thermal design.<br />
Last GS63 with 4C8T of Core i7 CPU presented 88~92°C with same burn-in test apps.<br />
Seems the GS65 temperature even a bit lower than GS63 with Core i7 8750H, the cooling design really improved.<br />
C side just around 31~38°C when CPU at full loading speed, the up side and left-right side airflow exhaust is abour 41~47°C.<br />
No matter on CPU or GPU burn-in temperature, GS65 was getting lower temperature than other brand of same high level gaming notebooks.
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About battery life, set Windows 10 power option at balanced, battery option set at power saving mode. <br />
System Tuner to Theater Mode to playback DVD video; still got 55% power after 4 hours playback. <br />
8% left after 8 hours playback with disable the WiFi connection. But still more than 6 hours even enable WiFi.<br />
So when you go out to use for entertainment usage, proper setup could extend the outstanding battery life for GS65.
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<p>
Summarized on the GS65 Stealth Thin 8RF<br />
Pros &amp; Advantage:<br />
1.    Golden edge line ID design, the lightest 15.6” narrow frame gaming notebook.<br />
2.    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 Max-Q graphics with Turbo mode, made ultra-slim notebook with higher 3D performance.<br />
3.    8th Gen Core i7 with 6C12T architecture that enhanced multi-tasks working performance.<br />
4.    Matted IPS-Level of 144Hz/7ms display and narrow bezel, and applied True Color 2.0 color calibration technology.<br />
5.    Dragon Center 2 interface become more elegant with rich control and features.<br />
6.    Cooler Boost Trinity of thermal module designed with 4 heatpipes &amp; 3 fans to become more powerful than previous design.<br />
7.    Keyboard feedback is outstanding, SSE3 app handle the Per-Key back light management, Macro keys and Gaming Mode for gamers.<br />
8.    Headset output embedded with ESS SABRE HiFi DAC, support up to Hi-Res Audio format sound quality.<br />
9.    Dynaudio sound speakers with Nahimic 3, presented much better sound around all ultra-slim notebooks.<br />
10.    New 180W adaptor even smaller than previous 150W design, more convenient for carry out.
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Cons &amp; Enhancements<br />
1.    A side cover is easier to attached finger print, very obvious under brighter environment.<br />
2.    WebCam only got 720p resolution, and image quality is not good enough under darker environment.<br />
3.    If press the chassis will feel a little softy feedback, this happened very often on slim notebooks.<br />
4.    Recommend the Dragon logo on A cover to use 3D material; that will make it looks higher value, B side black MSI logo is not clear, it will be better if use golden color logo.
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<img src="http://www.extreme01.com/wwm/2018/MGS65/MGS6537V.jpg" alt="MGS6537V.jpg" /></p>
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Performance Ratio    ★★★★★★★★★☆ 92/100<br />
Material Ratio        ★★★★★★★★★☆ 90/100<br />
Specification Ratio    ★★★★★★★★★☆ 92/100<br />
Aesthetics Ratio    ★★★★★★★★☆☆ 86/100<br />
Price-Value Ratio    ★★★★★★★★☆☆ 85/100
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Did mention there were 2 brands launched same type of 15.6” narrow bezel slim gaming notebooks, <br />
if pick them with Core i7 8750H, GTX 1070 Max-Q and FHD 144Hz display as a standard.<br />
These 3 models came at same price range included MSI, so consumers should compared the material and design to choose.<br />
GS65 8RF designed with DDR4 32GB, and 512GBx2 NVMe M.2 SSD<br />
Other 2 brands at same price range comes with DDR4 16GB RAM and single 512GB SSD, <br />
although it’s all 144Hz FHD display, but GS65 showed IPS level panel and 7ms response time. <br />
Furthermore with SABRE HiFi headset DAC, Cooler Boost Trinity thermal design, <br />
MSI own design APPs are more outstanding, the main Dragon Center 2 with more elegant UI and rich functions, <br />
True Color 2 with sRGB and 6 mode adjustment and Nahimic 3 audio enhancer, put all high level features on notebooks.
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<p>
Frankly speaking, if a notebook only compared on top level hardware SPEC., many brands are able to put hardware into a notebook body.<br />
But included ID design with own style, cooling solution, functions and features, software and usage, better user experience, those detail took long time evolution on products for years.<br />
In before the DELL Alienware was great on these points, but recent years MSI did catch up even exceed to higher level in some ways.<br />
The GS65 maybe not 100% perfect but already got really high score, it’s a great balanced on hardware, <br />
features and software combination of ultra slim gaming notebook although still have some small part could be improved.<br />
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More and more mobile devices become narrow bezel or frameless design to get higher competitive capability. <br />
As the Ultrabook or mobile phone in recent years, becomes slimmer and lighter is the most important trend.<br />
Thought about the design on Gaming Notebooks, since the design needs more high performance hardware and cooling solution, <br />
if the technology, ID and material is keep improving, maybe the frame and size could become thinner and lighter year by year.<br />
Evantually there are 3 of 15.6” thin bezel and ultra slim gaming notebooks came out in the market, this time it’s MSI GS65, the company did work hard on the gaming market.<br /><img src="http://www.extreme01.com/wwm/2018/MGS65/MGS6501.jpg" alt="MGS6501.jpg" /></p>
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The full name is GS65 Stealth Thin 8RF, it comes with 3 versions by different hardware combinations.<br />
Evolved from last version of slim notebook GS63, the GS65 designed with narrow bezel and brand new ID design. <br />
By the way, the previous generation GS63 with GTX1050 graphics was high C/P ratio, really worth of the price with great value!<br /><img src="http://www.extreme01.com/wwm/2018/MGS65/MGS6502.jpg" alt="MGS6502.jpg" /></p>
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GS65 with metallic A cover and matted touched design.<br />
Printed with golden MSI Dragon logo, the frame also uses shinning gold lines to make it looks higher quality and special.<br />
The dimension is 357.7x247.7x17.9mm, the weight is 1.88kg<br /><img src="http://www.extreme01.com/wwm/2018/MGS65/MGS6503V.jpg" alt="MGS6503V.jpg" /></p>
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B side attached the AUO 15.6” IPS level panel, with FHD resolution, 144Hz refresh rate and 7ms response time. <br />
The bezel only got 4.9mm slim, display ratio is 82%, camera on the top side is better place than some others at bottom side. <br />
WebCam is 720P 30fps, the mic on both side support stereo sound recording. <br />
The video image will have more noise if it’s darker environment, but the image quality and detail is better than GS63.<br /><img src="http://www.extreme01.com/wwm/2018/MGS65/MGS6504.jpg" alt="MGS6504.jpg" /></p>
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C side is keyboard side, besides of that it’s all matted metallic material, this is same design as A cover side. <br />
Keyboard kept the design with Steelseries slim Per-Key RGB keyboard, but no numeric keys. <br />
Around the slim type membrane keyboard notebooks, Alienware still better than GS65 of the feedback type feeling.<br /><img src="http://www.extreme01.com/wwm/2018/MGS65/MGS6505.jpg" alt="MGS6505.jpg" /></p>
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Power button on the top center position, use brushed treatment with golden edge frame line to make it higher quality. <br />
A small light on the right side, white light means it’s using UMA, orange light means it’s using GTX graphics.<br />
There were align with holes for airflow across the power button, that makes cool air into the fan to enhance the cooling system performance. <br />
The MSI logo on the bottom of panel is not obvious, it will be more shinning if comes with golden material.<br /><img src="http://www.extreme01.com/wwm/2018/MGS65/MGS6506.jpg" alt="MGS6506.jpg" /></p>
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The IO port on left side<br />
Kensington lock \ airflow exhaust \ RJ45 LAN port \ 2x Type-A USB3.1 port<br />
The 3.5mm golden jack for HiFi headset and Mic audio jack. <br />
The headset output design with ESS SABRE HiFi DAC.<br />
The hinge frame and airflow exhaust hole design with golden material inside, it makes the appearance looks higher level.<br /><img src="http://www.extreme01.com/wwm/2018/MGS65/MGS6507.jpg" alt="MGS6507.jpg" /></p>
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The right side IO design<br />
Start from left, Type-A USB3.1 \ Type-C Thunderbolt 3 with USB3.1 Gen 2 &amp; DP \ Mini DisplayPort \ HDMI 2.0\ AC input \ black-golden airflow exhaust<br /><img src="http://www.extreme01.com/wwm/2018/MGS65/MGS6508.jpg" alt="MGS6508.jpg" /></p>
<p>
There were three 15.6” narrow bezel gaming notebooks in the market, GIGABYTE Aero 15X about 2kgs, 18.9mm height, <br />
RAZER BLADE 15 about 2.07~2.15kgs, 17.3mm height, the thinnest but also the heaviest one.<br />
MSI GS65 formal shows 1.88kg, tested model is 1862g is the lightest one, 17.9mm height in the middle. <br />
But most of the ultra-slim notebooks came with softer chassis, so the weight depends on the design, <br />
the stronger chassis might enlarge the size. But it’s not always like this rule.<br /><img src="http://www.extreme01.com/wwm/2018/MGS65/MGS6509.jpg" alt="MGS6509.jpg" /></p>
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The GS65 display could open to 180 degree to become flat; it helps on office meeting or group discussion to share the screen. <br />
If this panel could design with touch feature, that will be great.<br /><img src="http://www.extreme01.com/wwm/2018/MGS65/MGS6510.jpg" alt="MGS6510.jpg" /></p>
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D side has bigger difference, besides of larger surface of holes for airflow, the based robber came with bigger size and taller, <br />
that helps more for airflow to reduce the heat more effectively. Built-in 4-Cell battery with 82Whr, larger than GS63 as well.<br /><img src="http://www.extreme01.com/wwm/2018/MGS65/MGS6511.jpg" alt="MGS6511.jpg" /></p>
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Application is also a very important point that could enhance user experience for convenience, <br />
the Dragon Center is MSI own design APP, 2.0 version with brand new interface and enhanced a lot on the features. <br />
The UI showed it’s transparent image to see through your desktop. System Monitor showed current hardware working status.<br /><img src="http://www.extreme01.com/wwm/2018/MGS65/MGS6512.jpg" alt="MGS6512.jpg" /></p>
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System Tuner<br />
About DPI, hardware performance, fan speed or display color adjusts setup. <br />
Original with 4 preset, and 2 user define profile could save by user’s own preference. <br />
Shift mode got Turbo (GPU OC), Sport,ECO, Power Options of 4 types.<br />
Fan Speed got Auto, Basic, Advanced and Cooler Boost modes.<br />
No matter on performance wise or cooling mode, it all applied many modes that made GS65 more advanced usages with fun.<br /><img src="http://www.extreme01.com/wwm/2018/MGS65/MGS6513.jpg" alt="MGS6513.jpg" /></p>
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Gaming Mode<br />
You could see few hottest game titles supported here, like this GS65 already installed PUBG, <br />
users could through here to launch the game with MSI apps to change the keyboard backlit for the game hot keys.<br /><img src="http://www.extreme01.com/wwm/2018/MGS65/MGS6514.jpg" alt="MGS6514.jpg" /></p>
<p>
MSI True Color, display colors adjust<br />
The Display Software was rare at NB products market, True Color comes with 6 modes for user to adjust with favors.<br />
MSI formal preset is sRGB mode, but users could still make more detail adjustment on each of the 6 modes.<br /><img src="http://www.extreme01.com/wwm/2018/MGS65/MGS6515.jpg" alt="MGS6515.jpg" /></p>
<p>
The sound enhancement APP kept on Nahimic 3, become Microsoft Market Place APP, it’s more convenient to use, <br />
the UI changed a lot, rich features, with sound stages adjustment, mic enhancement, gaming stereo and other detail setup.<br /><img src="http://www.extreme01.com/wwm/2018/MGS65/MGS6516.jpg" alt="MGS6516.jpg" /></p>
<p>
Here was my GS65 sound experience; this part might be more subjective point of view, compared with other high level gaming laptops.<br />
High Frequency – No over-sharped tone, rich of detail, presented high level quality.<br />
Mid Frequency – The sound detail was outstanding, strong vocal over average, but still could be better.<br />
Low Frequency – It presented good with clear drum sound, but it could be more powerful.<br />
Within this slim chassis design and narrow bezel frame, the speakers only got very limited space. <br />
With 2x 2watts speakers, turn on the maxima volume is really loud when play games in the room.<br />
The authentic sound detail is the most outstanding part, it’s really good no matter FHD video or play games.<br />
Headset output designed with ESS SABRE HiFi DAC, supported up to 192kHz/24bit as Hi-Res sampling rate. <br />
When use Hi-Res Audio headset to listen, the sound quality could compete the top level DELL Alienware products.
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<p>
Keyboard APP is Steelseries Engine 3<br />
Applied with general backlit management, rich of Macro-keys setup and multiple virtual keyboards for any different usage.<br />
Some of the lighting mode was preset inside that user could use, with Per-Key RGB function that could make the color modes become very fancy. <br />
The default with golden light made the dual wave from middle to aside, it really fits the color and style of GS65.<br /><img src="http://www.extreme01.com/wwm/2018/MGS65/MGS6517.jpg" alt="MGS6517.jpg" /></p>
<p>
GS65 came with 2 GPUs first, the 8RF with GTX 1070 and 8RE with GTX 1060 versions.<br />
Also got different DDR4 and M.2 SSD capacities inside, that comes with different price range.<br />
Here came the GS65 8RF of top level hardware test, CPU used Intel Core i7 8750H, <br />
use Sport mode with Auto fan set to test, it’s the most balanced at performance and noise.
</p>
<p>
CPUZ 1.85.0<br />
Single Thread =&gt; 470<br />
6C12T Multiple Thread =&gt; 3222<br />
Fritz Chess Benchmark =&gt; 41.67/19999<br /><img src="http://www.extreme01.com/wwm/2018/MGS65/MGS6518.jpg" alt="MGS6518.jpg" /></p>
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CINEBENCH R15<br />
CPU =&gt; 1124 cb<br />
CPU(Single Core) =&gt; 177 cb<br /><img src="http://www.extreme01.com/wwm/2018/MGS65/MGS6519.jpg" alt="MGS6519.jpg" /></p>
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FRYRENDER<br />
Running Time =&gt; 2m 22s<br />
x265 Benchmark 2.1.0 =&gt; 34.36 FPS<br /><img src="http://www.extreme01.com/wwm/2018/MGS65/MGS6520.jpg" alt="MGS6520.jpg" /></p>
<p>
The Intel 8th Gen. Core i7 8750H core clock is 2.2~4.1GHz, the core architecture is 6C12T, <br />
compared to last Gen. same level of Core i7 7700HQ clock at 2.8~3.8GHz, core numbers only 4C8T.<br />
The Core i7 8750H single Core got about 8% performance enhancement, multi-Core with full speed will have 52%~65% performance enhancement depends on the usages. <br />
It’s really great help on high quality video editing, image or artwork designs, which really needs more CPU Cores to speed up. <br />
Besides of gaming enhancement, the 8th Gen architecture could also make the video clip and artwork more effectively.
</p>
<p>
PCMARK10 =&gt; 5103<br /><img src="http://www.extreme01.com/wwm/2018/MGS65/MGS6521.jpg" alt="MGS6521.jpg" /></p>
<p>
Storage designed with dual M.2 PCIe Gen.3 SSD slot, and 1 slot supported M.2 SATA interface. <br />
This GS65 8RF used 2 SAMSUNG MZVLB512HAJQ with RAID0.
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<p>
CrystalDiskMark <br />
Seq Read - 3501.5 MB/s，Write - 3256.0 MB/s<br />
AS SSD Benchmark - 3426<br />
Seq Read - 2908.68 MB/s，Write - 2960.23 MB/s<br />
4K - 64Thrd Read - 1061.38 MB/s，Write - 967.93 MB/s<br /><img src="http://www.extreme01.com/wwm/2018/MGS65/MGS6522.jpg" alt="MGS6522.jpg" /></p>
<p>
This SSD should be PM981 512GB, above are the performance with RAID0.<br />
But the chipset support up to PCI-e Gen3 x4 bandwidth limitation, not like SATA3 RAID to double the performance. <br />
So the Max. performance is up to 3500+ MB/s around, plus the storage of 4k test will be lower because the notebook power saving technology is not able to manual disable.<br />
But if we consider in the notebook field, PM981 of RAID0 already the highest speed level of M.2 performance.
</p>
<p>
Embedded with 2 kinds of GPU, one is Intel Core i7-8750H of built-in HD630 graphics.<br />
The 2nd one is nVIDIA Geforce GTX 1070 with 8GB GDDR5 VRAM of Max-Q versions.<br />
Below numbers all based on GTX 1070 Max-Q tests, same software with 2 types of preset and score<br />
Up: Shift Sport + Fan Speed Auto<br />
Down: Shift Turbo + Fan Speed Cooler Boost<br />
3DMARK 11 =&gt; 16105<br /><img src="http://www.extreme01.com/wwm/2018/MGS65/MGS6523.jpg" alt="MGS6523.jpg" /></p>
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3D MARK 11 =&gt; 17297, improved 7.4% after overclocked.<br /><img src="http://www.extreme01.com/wwm/2018/MGS65/MGS6524.jpg" alt="MGS6524.jpg" /></p>
<p>
3DMARK Fire Strike =&gt; 12785<br /><img src="http://www.extreme01.com/wwm/2018/MGS65/MGS6525.jpg" alt="MGS6525.jpg" /></p>
<p>
3D MARK Fire Strike =&gt; 14067, improved 10% after overclocked.<br /><img src="http://www.extreme01.com/wwm/2018/MGS65/MGS6526.jpg" alt="MGS6526.jpg" /></p>
<p>
UNIGINE 2<br />
1080P MEDIUM =&gt; 10171<br />
Compared GTX1060 =&gt; 7902, GTX1070 =&gt; 13537<br /><img src="http://www.extreme01.com/wwm/2018/MGS65/MGS6527.jpg" alt="MGS6527.jpg" /></p>
<p>
UNIGINE 2<br />
1080P MEDIUM =&gt; 11217, improved 10% after overclocked.<br /><img src="http://www.extreme01.com/wwm/2018/MGS65/MGS6528.jpg" alt="MGS6528.jpg" /></p>
<p>
Assassin's Creed Syndicate<br />
1920 x 1080，GRAPHIC preset ULTRA HIGH<br />
In Beginning Theme - 49 FPS<br />
Previous test with GTX 1060 was 37 FPS，GTX 1070 was 59 FPS<br /><img src="http://www.extreme01.com/wwm/2018/MGS65/MGS6529.jpg" alt="MGS6529.jpg" /></p>
<p>
The same game theme – 53FPS, add 8.2% after overclocked.<br /><img src="http://www.extreme01.com/wwm/2018/MGS65/MGS6530.jpg" alt="MGS6530.jpg" /></p>
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Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six<img src="https://www.xtremehardware.com/forum/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/00ae.png?v=e1a18355660" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--registered" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title="®" alt="®" /> Siege<br />
1920 x 1080，GRAPHICS preset Ultra<br />
In Game Theme - 146 FPS<br />
Previous test with GTX 1060 got 110 FPS，GTX 1070 got 167 FPS<br /><img src="http://www.extreme01.com/wwm/2018/MGS65/MGS6531.jpg" alt="MGS6531.jpg" /></p>
<p>
The same game theme – 153FPS, add 4.8% after overclocked.<br /><img src="http://www.extreme01.com/wwm/2018/MGS65/MGS6532.jpg" alt="MGS6532.jpg" /></p>
<p>
PLAYERUNKNOWN’S BATTLEGROUNDS<br />
1920 x 1080, set 3D effect at Highest, Lobby character setup theme – 78FPS<br /><img src="http://www.extreme01.com/wwm/2018/MGS65/MGS6533.jpg" alt="MGS6533.jpg" /></p>
<p>
Lobby character setup theme – 85FPS, add 8.9% after overclocked.<br /><img src="http://www.extreme01.com/wwm/2018/MGS65/MGS6534.jpg" alt="MGS6534.jpg" /></p>
<p>
The Turbo Mode that overclocked GTX 1070 Max-Q Core/VRAM over 200MHz, benchmarks could raise up 10% <br />
performance, in game FPS around 4.8~8.9% depend on different games.<br />
That made the GTX 1070 Max-Q overall 3D performance closer to GTX 1070, also more fun at overclock feature.<br />
Because the GS series designed with Ultra Slim type, it’s critical limitation to put GTX 1070 Max-P version on thermal, power consumption and size. <br />
The GS65 with much optimized interior design to achieve the highest performance inside.
</p>
<p>
The room temperature is about 31°C, tested the GPU of GeForce GTX 1070 Max-Q with its cooling capability. <br />
Try FurMark test, idle at 49°C, full speed at 87°C<br /><img src="http://www.extreme01.com/wwm/2018/MGS65/MGS6535.jpg" alt="MGS6535.jpg" /></p>
<p>
Shift set at Sport and Fan Speed Auto of GPU burn-in test status<br />
Keyboard surface around 30~41°C, top side and aside of airflow exhausts was about 42~48°C.<br />
The noise level present is outstanding, even the GPU temp. was not as low as GS63 at 83°C, but the noise level reduced a lot.<br />
Enable Cooler Boost Mode made higher noise level, it’s better to use headset to play, but the temperature from 87°C dropped to 78°C.
</p>
<p>
CPU default clock from 2.2GHz~4.1GHz, battery mode set to High Performance.<br />
Tested with LinX 0.6.5 at full loading speed, around 82~90°C, maxima up to 93°C.<br />
Enable Cooler Boost for reference, 80~86°C, maxima up to 91°C.<br /><img src="http://www.extreme01.com/wwm/2018/MGS65/MGS6536.jpg" alt="MGS6536.jpg" /></p>
<p>
<br />
Intel high level Core i7 from 1~7th Generation all came with 4C8T architecture,  the 8th Gen. become 6C12T, since it enhanced a lot on multi-task works, <br />
but more challenge to high level notebooks, the cooling surface was very limited, and slim notebooks even more challenge of thermal design.<br />
Last GS63 with 4C8T of Core i7 CPU presented 88~92°C with same burn-in test apps.<br />
Seems the GS65 temperature even a bit lower than GS63 with Core i7 8750H, the cooling design really improved.<br />
C side just around 31~38°C when CPU at full loading speed, the up side and left-right side airflow exhaust is abour 41~47°C.<br />
No matter on CPU or GPU burn-in temperature, GS65 was getting lower temperature than other brand of same high level gaming notebooks.
</p>
<p>
About battery life, set Windows 10 power option at balanced, battery option set at power saving mode. <br />
System Tuner to Theater Mode to playback DVD video; still got 55% power after 4 hours playback. <br />
8% left after 8 hours playback with disable the WiFi connection. But still more than 6 hours even enable WiFi.<br />
So when you go out to use for entertainment usage, proper setup could extend the outstanding battery life for GS65.
</p>
<p>
Summarized on the GS65 Stealth Thin 8RF<br />
Pros &amp; Advantage:<br />
1.    Golden edge line ID design, the lightest 15.6” narrow frame gaming notebook.<br />
2.    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 Max-Q graphics with Turbo mode, made ultra-slim notebook with higher 3D performance.<br />
3.    8th Gen Core i7 with 6C12T architecture that enhanced multi-tasks working performance.<br />
4.    Matted IPS-Level of 144Hz/7ms display and narrow bezel, and applied True Color 2.0 color calibration technology.<br />
5.    Dragon Center 2 interface become more elegant with rich control and features.<br />
6.    Cooler Boost Trinity of thermal module designed with 4 heatpipes &amp; 3 fans to become more powerful than previous design.<br />
7.    Keyboard feedback is outstanding, SSE3 app handle the Per-Key back light management, Macro keys and Gaming Mode for gamers.<br />
8.    Headset output embedded with ESS SABRE HiFi DAC, support up to Hi-Res Audio format sound quality.<br />
9.    Dynaudio sound speakers with Nahimic 3, presented much better sound around all ultra-slim notebooks.<br />
10.    New 180W adaptor even smaller than previous 150W design, more convenient for carry out.
</p>
<p>
Cons &amp; Enhancements<br />
1.    A side cover is easier to attached finger print, very obvious under brighter environment.<br />
2.    WebCam only got 720p resolution, and image quality is not good enough under darker environment.<br />
3.    If press the chassis will feel a little softy feedback, this happened very often on slim notebooks.<br />
4.    Recommend the Dragon logo on A cover to use 3D material; that will make it looks higher value, B side black MSI logo is not clear, it will be better if use golden color logo.
</p>
<p>
<img src="http://www.extreme01.com/wwm/2018/MGS65/MGS6537V.jpg" alt="MGS6537V.jpg" /></p>
<p>
Performance Ratio    ★★★★★★★★★☆ 92/100<br />
Material Ratio        ★★★★★★★★★☆ 90/100<br />
Specification Ratio    ★★★★★★★★★☆ 92/100<br />
Aesthetics Ratio    ★★★★★★★★☆☆ 86/100<br />
Price-Value Ratio    ★★★★★★★★☆☆ 85/100
</p>
<p>
Did mention there were 2 brands launched same type of 15.6” narrow bezel slim gaming notebooks, <br />
if pick them with Core i7 8750H, GTX 1070 Max-Q and FHD 144Hz display as a standard.<br />
These 3 models came at same price range included MSI, so consumers should compared the material and design to choose.<br />
GS65 8RF designed with DDR4 32GB, and 512GBx2 NVMe M.2 SSD<br />
Other 2 brands at same price range comes with DDR4 16GB RAM and single 512GB SSD, <br />
although it’s all 144Hz FHD display, but GS65 showed IPS level panel and 7ms response time. <br />
Furthermore with SABRE HiFi headset DAC, Cooler Boost Trinity thermal design, <br />
MSI own design APPs are more outstanding, the main Dragon Center 2 with more elegant UI and rich functions, <br />
True Color 2 with sRGB and 6 mode adjustment and Nahimic 3 audio enhancer, put all high level features on notebooks.
</p>
<p>
Frankly speaking, if a notebook only compared on top level hardware SPEC., many brands are able to put hardware into a notebook body.<br />
But included ID design with own style, cooling solution, functions and features, software and usage, better user experience, those detail took long time evolution on products for years.<br />
In before the DELL Alienware was great on these points, but recent years MSI did catch up even exceed to higher level in some ways.<br />
The GS65 maybe not 100% perfect but already got really high score, it’s a great balanced on hardware, <br />
features and software combination of ultra slim gaming notebook although still have some small part could be improved.<br />
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